[Wynton]

I'm not saying it's inconsistent, just trying to clarify the logic.

Let me see if I understand you and the others correctly. We think our hand is good more than 1/5 times, thereby justifying a river call (provided we just checked the turn). We don't like the c/r because we are going to be compelled to call the raise due to our outs (contrary to the advice given by the authors).

But does it really suck so much to call the c/r and then fold an ui river, against this unknown opponent? And don't we need to take into account the times that the villain c/r here just on a draw, but then gives up on the river by checking to us?