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Old 01-16-2005, 11:01 AM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default Re: Steps 200+15 on the bubble w/AKo

Under "normal" tourney payout structures it would be a crime to fold both of those hands, but this particular step 3 tourney is different. The payouts are extremely flat (1-6 move to step 4, 7-9 do over, 10-11 move down a step.) There is nothing gained by finishing 1st vs 6th, or 7th vs 9th, therefore chip preservation outweighs chip acquisition. This, of course, highlights the luxury of having a mid to large sized stack and being able to steal from all the weak/tight players such as myself (only w/t in this particular situation [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

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just curious as to why in hand2 u do not go all in, because the big stacks will call....and thats bad?

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Actually, in this particular situation, that would be bad. AKo is not such a huge favorite against one or two random hands to warrant me getting all my chips in the middle. The player to my immediate left will be forced all in the next time the blinds come around, and there is also a short stack four doors down with t420 in chips that has t450 in blinds headed his way.

As I mentioned in the beginning of my post, I inadvertantly signed up for a limit tourney instead of NL, felt a bit out of my element, and was content to just get my freeroll back.

To be results oriented, the second hand was actually played to the river by the SB & BB.

flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
river: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I would have had nothing but ace high.

Finally, as an example of probably what NOT to do, this hand played out a few hands later (not that I'm complaining, because it gave me the results that I wanted). BB in this hand probably should have just let his cards go.

Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t300 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG (t3075)
UTG+1 (t3565)
Hero (t445)
MP1 (t85)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t1930)</font>
MP3 (t4270)
CO (t840)
Button (t3130)
SB (t1931)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t729)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t729 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (5.36 SB, t1608) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (2.68 BB, t1608) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (2.68 BB, t1608) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 2.68 BB (t1608)

BB has Ac 7c (high card, ace).
MP2 has Jh Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP2 wins 2.68 BB (t1608).
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