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Old 08-30-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Tens vs. Dan H. at Legends

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But early in a big time NLT, hands like 99, TT and JJ are easier to get into trouble with UTG or EP, then they are to fold. Personally, folding the tens preflop is almost an easy decision

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well first, especially in a deepstacked tournament, 9's and T's and J's are extremely playable, i don't know what would make you say they are a fold.. Even for only set value you have to play these hands.

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How so?

TT UTG, with presumably 8 or 9 players yet to act. What are the likely hands to call? To reraise?

Let's assume that no hand with less than a Q (or worse, even a J) in it will be cold calling or reraising a UTG raise. What are possible hands are left over?

AA, KK, QQ, JJ
AKo, AKs, AQs AJs

That's probably about it. I can't consider that AQo and AJo are legit cold calling hands for a UTG raise.

So you are (very roughly) 50% likely to be a major dog. Are you willing to donate 1/4 or 1/3 of your stack knowing it is a coin flip to be a huge dog?

And you are (very roughly) 50% likely to be little better than even money (55-45 or so). Are you willing to donate 10% o 15% of your stack on a limp, knowing full well that you will have to make dead money out of it if you are reraised?

Where is the value in that kind of play?
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