Re: How often do Ace\'s hold up when they are the down cards?
>> but sure, get it all in with pocket Aces.
>Why are you giving this advice? Dry Aces against a straight or flush draw on 4th isn't a favorite?
Sure in a best/worst case senario they are in a coin flip on 4th.
However the facts are that the straight has 8 outs and the flush has 9.(other that trip outs which still may lose you the pot) Unless you hit one of them you have to hit your hand twice and the A's have to remain unimproved. Even if the A's remain uninproved you have to hit your hand to win. This is why you need overcards in your draws to play them heads up. another problem is if you do make the straigh or flush you will pay off dearly when the A's tap into a full boat.
If the Aces takes even one of your straight or flush outs your in a Lag. If probability serves, some of your str8 or flush outs are holed up somewhere or in the muck and you are now dogging it. Your either A slim fav or a pretty big dog not a good place to go all in or call an all in bet.
We Know this is because you cannot extract any more or enough bets from your opponent to over come the times where you are a dog and dont make enough from your slim avdantage here when your not.
Also Dont use fantasy sims to support weak positions. use realistic ones. make at least 15% of the dead hole cards either a dead str8 or flush out and you have a much more realistic simulation.
If you do this you will present a much more realistic overveiw.
plus cut the jetsam from your 2 dimes C&P's they are hard to read unless you go to the reply with Quote applett.
Just my few cents
timmer
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