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Old 12-23-2005, 02:41 AM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: quick poll -- 88 UTG+1

My default is reraise 88 and fold 77.

Someone said 88 is "not even close" but actually it is close. You've got four live people behind you, you are a significant underdog versus most player's UTG PFR range, you have bad implied odds*, and no significant fold equity**.

You do have position on the PFR and that is a saving grace. But overall it's close.

* Bad implied odds: This is the classic problem of overcards versus a pocket pair. The overcards can frequently get away on the turn when they are losing. 88 on the other hand usually finds itself trapped into paying off. You lose bigger pots than you win.

** No significant fold equity: Villain will make an incorrect fold versus 88 roughly never.
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