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Old 12-20-2005, 03:14 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: \"villainous\" sraight flush... vomit

I am very tempted to move and/or lock this because it really is a bad beat post, BUT, I think there are a couple of points worth discussing:

1. Limping pre-flop JTs is fine. I do it a lot. If you are going to do it, though, you need to be confident in your post-flop play. Also, it works best at loose tables. I'm confident, though, that folding JTs UTG at .5/1 would be a mistake, though.

2. Flop is fine. The pot is small, betting protects your hand, and you have no reason to believe anyone will bet based on the pre-flop action.

3. Three-betting the turn is a possibility but it depends on reads. In a multiway pot, you often would only get raised by a flush or straight here from many players, so not three-betting has to be considered.

4. Not jamming the river is a giant, huge, massive error. This alone is the reason I want to leave this post up. You have the second nuts and are losing to exactly one two card combination. With three players still in, capping is going to net you two more BB the vast majority of the time. You're average equity on the end here is like 95% (and the discount is mostly for times you're chopping with another JT, not for when you lose to 89s).

So not raising the river at every opportunity is almost a 2 BB error!!!

Edit: I was confused about who was doin' the cappin'.