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i understand i made mistakes in both hands. My question is where do i drop in either hand. Not sure why you post the first time without anything that helps anyone learn anything new.

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Mr Rock:
Yves does this becasue though both hands look rather pretty from an asthetic viewpoint, they are both the equivelent of the Detroit Lions to a real poker player. I have recently learned this the hard way as most of my "problem hand" posts involved hands like KJo or A10s and after reading TPFAP and Harrington Vol. 1 the Math made sense on why these hands will almost always do things like this to you more than you will flop your desired straight. Yves is trying to point out that you made a rookie mistake without coming right out and saying that you spewed your chips like an ATM....I've done it myself pleanty, i know it when i see it.


Run goot