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....I don't really like to compare the two...just two totally different games that should be treated as such. apples and oranges?

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Right on, I'm glad someone said it. Which is harder, Draw or Stud? It's the same argument but nonetheless an interesting one. As far as the 'Limit involves more luck' argument what the hell are you trying to say? Luck does not exist. Short term swings are a function of statistics not acts of God and certainly not luck. Both forms of HE invlove significant swings, but it does not mean one has to be 'more lucky' to win at either form.