Thread: The Crusades
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:23 AM
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1. The Koran advocates war and violence to convert unbelievers and punish those who are deemed to have offended Islam.


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Prove it.

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First let me say that the Koran does not insist that unbelievers be forcibly converted--they can be killed, instead; or, if they are other people "of the Book" (Jews or Christians), they may be subjugated under Islamic rule and forced to pay the poll tax. Elsewhere in the Koran it is written that "there shall be no compulsion in religion", and as can be seen from the three choices above, there are two other options other than conversion.

However, here is what the Koran does say (in four translations):

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Sura 9:29 Qatiloo allatheena la yu/minoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi al-akhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona

YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KHALIFA: You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly. (excerpt)

http://www.universalunity.net/quran4/009.qmt.html
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