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Old 12-08-2005, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Common problem with super-draws

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I would lead for $10 and hope to get raised by a big overpair.

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Do you always like to gamble for 250BBs on a 50/50 shot?

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[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] In the villain's place, would you call 250BBs with one pair? Sometimes pushing decreases your variance.

[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] It's not 50-50. Not only is the OESFD a 54-46 favorite again KK or AA (averaging over the cases of a club or not), there is a significant amount of dead money after you get reraised on the flop.

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These stacks are very deep, and you dont know what your FE is. If the action goes hero pot, villain pot raise, hero push, then if villain calls then you are AT BEST a small favourite over villain.

The "dead" money is the $30 pot. This is not worth shoving 1k in postflop on a coinflip.

There are better ways to play such a magnificient hand.

Consider this kind of action
Hero leads pot (30), villain makes it 120, hero just calls

Pot (270)
Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
A seemingly innocuous card to villain, and you can either lead for 200, and villain doesnt know what to do with his AA. Or maybe you check, and villain believes you to be flushing, so he bets 200, and you can now push, the pot is 400 - which is well worth fighting for.

Or another turn could go
Pot (270)
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Hero checks, villain bets 200, hero pushes. Villain will have a tough time calling that with his Aces, as your action really looks like a set. If he does call, well you still have many outs.

Or what about this
Pot (270)
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hero checks ... villain checks ... what? He checks? Well yes, villain might be a little afraid of a check/raise, so he might just check here, and then the river ..

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Now you lead for 300, and villain has to look you up (if indeed he has AA).


I would judge all of the above scenarios to be superior to firing 1k into the pot on the flop. All of them increase your chances of winning the pot, and increase the amount of money you can win with it. You also tend to put maximum pressure on an opponent who does have a big pair like AA or KK, and there are various scenarios where those hands will call big bets on the turn/river when they are drawing stone dead.
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