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I don't really like calling either. What hand is MP betting with here that we beat? I can only think of QQ or JJ or AQ with a spade.

Edit: Hmmm maybe I just convinced myself that DD's play is best.

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getting 12:1 with tpgk, i think you have to at least call here. as you said, we could be ahead of mp. and even though we're probably behind him, (assuming the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is dirty) we have 4 outs against AA and 2 outs against AK. if you're gonna call, then i think raising is better.

pretty sure you're folding to a 3bet, ddonkey?