[bluewilde]

Usually I apply the "play for set value" advice in multiway pots early on with weaker hands. None of these conditions really apply here so I ignore it, but felt like I needed to raise the issue for my own clarification. Sounds like it's not as solid a rule as I thought I was hearing. So I really need to qualify the situation based on position, number of opponents, strength of pair and texture of board?

I've also been put under the impression that TT and JJ are much weaker than I originally thought. Clearly they have strength on this flop, but what about preflop, given the timimdity of the table?