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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] sucks for sure. I've always had to (try to) remain emotional detached from family pets

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I would have thought you were the exact opposite based on some of the things you have posted here.

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It's not easy, but I've had too. It's hard enough loosing a family pet, but bawling over it when your kids are bawling over it doesn't work too well. Someone has to drive.

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OK that's make sense, my father who loves dogs would probably have been the same way, at least infront of my brothers and I.

I figured the loyality, unconditional love would be something right up your alley.