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Old 12-18-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Fairly Common Situation

10-20 live game.
A fair bit of limping going on.

I have QJo.

Preflop:
2 early limpers, I limp in middle position, theres a couple limpers after me, and both the blinds are with us.

Flop:
Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

It's checked to me, I bet, the guy acting right after me raises, its folded around to me, I call.

My question now is: This player is way too loose preflop. But thats not the big issue. He still knows somewhat how to play poker, ie, he can raise for a freecard with draws, he can knock people out of pots, etc etc.

What should be my turn plan?

Should I donk-fold a non-spade turn? How about a spade turn? Should I risk the free card and check-call the turn.
Should I have 3bet the flop (even though live games arent as agressive as internet ones) and led the turn?


I'm a bit lost as to whats optimal here.
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