thanks for the reply..much appreciated. i know the odds i didnt really break it down like that. makes it look like a insta call, i called him and he showed Ah5h, i should have known he wouldnt do that on a draw for all his chips that late and in the position he was in, that was my thinking before i called. oh well his flush held up and i finished 22. dont really care about placing, playing to win...if your gonna win you have to gambooool in that spot..