[Jeff V]

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Stipulate that God created the universe. Don't worry for now about whether Jesus is the son of God. Don't worry whether God wants you to believe certain things. Those are not the important questions. The important questions are the ones in the previous paragraph. Does such a God exist?


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For me and I think most other christians I think they have to all tie together.

As far as your question"does such a Gos exist?" I say yes. How does one prove that- as of yet we can't otherwise we wouldn't be having any of these discussions. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

However I wonder- if I were to give an eyewitness account to a genuine bonafide miracle would any non-believer come to belief? Not a "hey look at that it's Mary in a potato chip" but something that couldn't be explained by science, math, physics etc? What then? Well I must be a religious kook then because obviously that can't happen right? Who if anyone would be credible enough to give such an account?...Please don't say Mason!
Jeff