[Jbrochu]

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care to elaborate why?


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The main point I disagree with is the statement "if you don't accept the premises as valid then no discussion can continue."

A good discussion results from forming a valid argument. A valid argument is an argument structured in such a manner that the conclusion must be true if the premises are true.

For you to argue that the premises must be accepted as true is silly, because if we accept that your premises are true, and also accept that you've structured your argument in a valid manner, there is nothing left to discuss.

This leads us back to your premises (the meat of any logical argument) and whether they are true or false. We can argue about those for the next fifty years and not get anywhere because they cannot be proved as true or false.