[grandgnu]

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The UTG limper doesn't have to have a monster (as we saw in this case, he folded). He's short-stacked relative to the blinds and he's limping UTG. That, to me, usually indicates a donk who's squeeked into the money.

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What percentage of times do you think UTG is limping short stacked with something mediocre hes willing to fold to a push - and what percentage is it a short stack trying to get action with AA-KK?

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I don't know that I could apply a percentage here, since my read would be based on that specific player and what I've seen. I typically regard limping UTG short-stacked as a pretty poor move, since if you do have A/A or K/K you're allowing drawing hands in cheaply to the flop.

With UTG+1 raising, he figures to have some of the cards we might be worried that our limper has (provided our limper has a monster). If our limper does have a monster, and we push and he pushes and the original raiser can't ignore the great pot odds, then the original raiser is likely drawing to very few outs, allowing us to win the side pot and at least break even on the hand.

But again, I don't always give credit to the limping UTG short-stacked player. usually these donks will min-raise with A/A or K/K, giving the BB great odds to outdraw them.