hand 1: 2.5 to one on money, even if it is all in, thats a real strong read to fold. I guess gavins not thinking of a smoothcalled TT-JJ, and eliminated that from the range, which leaves callable hands at AA (slowplayed preflop), 88,77,66,55, which leaves 99, QQ (maybe TT) as the only hands that he can beat, given the preflop action. i dont know, i still wouldve called. by the way, calling with JJ to UTG raiser. How do you guys consider that play? its interesting to me. i usually push the action.