[Jester999]

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I think these plays work quite well at the 6max tables. Even at low stakes you play so many hands with everyone that even many bad players are paying a little attention and will remember seeing you push in with less then top pair. Many of them won't realize that this (or pushing other big draws) is a good move and that they are actually a slight dog. It will often induce loose calls on future hands.

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See last post by me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Also, here's the relevant quote by Ray Zee:

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garland what most people are missing here is that this hand is a great hand to have. you get to build a pot on the flop. by maybe betting and reraising or check raising a huge amount. your big gain comes from most times your opponents will fold and you get all that dead money. plus future action makes it harder to read you when you play big pots.
if you get unlucky and get played with for all your money so what. you are up against some hands you are a favorite against. some hands like a set rarely, that you still have 30% of the pot even then. or get called by another flush draw and hope your pair wins.
ever wonder why no limit was a dying game before tv picked it up. it is because average players are easy to read when they put decent amounts of money in. so good players beat them out of the big pots and lose only smaller ones to them. so when they get their chance to get broke they do.

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BTW, Matt Flynn has some excellent comments on the hand also.

In the last 6 months my game had really flat lined. I'm still a winning player but my winrate at the higher limits wasn't comparable to what it had been at the lower limits. I think plays like the one above are the kind that allow you to move up in limits. Who knows, but I'll keep looking for spots like this to push. I can beat monkeys at any level but I want good players to fear and respect me. Up until this point, I think the good players have a VERY easy time putting me on hands.

And I do have the bankroll to cover the swings.