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Old 04-29-2005, 01:11 PM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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I went there last night. Supremely overcrowded, maybe by as many as 3 tables. Other than that it was nice. Lighting was dim. Comps are $1-$1.50/hr depending on the limit you are playing. Electronic board. Shufflers. I recognized some good dealers.

They were spreading mostly 4-8 last night. 1 to 2 8-16 games, a few 15-30's. Some LL stud and Omaha8 as well. $2 chips for the $8-16.

I am disappointed that they spread 3-chip 2-chip games, but given the desire to compete against Bellagio and the room manager coming from a 3-chip 2-chip house I'm not surprised. That's really unfortunate unless they then go to a $50-100 and a $100-200 instead of $80-160. There may well not be the demand for that many games at those limits though. One would think that Commerce migrating to solely 40-80 after spreading both 30-60 and 40-80 would be the model for other rooms, but I guess not.

Staff was very friendly, etc. but you'd expect nothing less on opening night.

So to recap:

Negatives:
Cramped
Spreading the wrong structure games in middle limits.

Positives:
Everything else unless you dislike dim lighting.

As for the rest of the Casino, it's extremely nice. Kind of like Bellagio on steroids. The inside of the mountain in the front is absolutely the bomb.

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Last night I went again after the Mirage 40-80 broke around 8:00. I brought the two remaining players from the broken game with me. When I got to Wynn there were two full 40-80s and when I left a few hours later they were about to spread a 3rd, and had 9 names on the 80-160 interest list. The games were comprised of a few unknowns, 70% Mirage players and the rest Bellagio players. I talked with every Mirage regular and we all agreed to keep supporting Wynn as long as they spread the 40. I also talked with the shift manager Mike and expressed my feelings regarding spreading 40 vs. 30. There were a ton of Mirage players at all limits. At one point, Dennis, the Mirage shift manager actually walked into the room to see where his games had gone.

Lighting at the tables is fine, it just seems dimmer from the outside. Plus, they spread the 40 up top and those 6 tables are spaced very comfortably. We also talked them into reducing the 40 games from 10 handed to 9 handed, which helps.

Only negative is that there were some dealers who may well have been dealing for the first time ever out of school. Considering the rumors of the large number of applicants, I am pretty amazed by this. Several didn't even know what "time collection" was, let alone how to make change. But everything else, especially management's willingness to listen to the players, is so superior to the Mirage, I'm willing to deal with a little inconvenience from the dealers. Though I do think it would be advisable for the room to do what the Nuggett did last year by putting the more experienced dealers in the top section rotation.

I do think that if they keep spreading 40-80 they will get a regular 80-160 going. 3 40-80's last night is dang near critical mass to just naturally produce an 80-160 game. If we get four 40's going tonight, I'd be shocked if there wasn't an 80.
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