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Old 12-09-2005, 02:01 AM
imported_luckyme imported_luckyme is offline
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Default Re: A question for Christians AND atheists

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Evolvedform, you talk of intellectual honesty, and then purport your absolute certainty of something that you can in no way be certain of, that is, if you were actually intellectually honest.

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It all depends on the context and in an atheist/theist comparison it can never be anything but apples and oranges. There is a reason it is called 'faith' and major xtrian philosophers talk about 'leap of faith'.

Since an atheist has that ingrediant missing in their deliberations and deducing there are several ways to be as certain of the non-existance as one can be certain of anything. But it's impossible for a 'faith-based' viewpoint to see it as certainty, and if I was a theist I'd be saying "hey, where's the faith part in your weighting" or some such.

Naturally, if I'd made the leap I'd be just as certain .. that's what the leap is supposed to do, that IS what it means... you accept it, period.

I'm not referring to the thinking and weighing that may gets one to the edge of the abyss and consider leaping it, that can be thought out and there's a poster earlier in this thread that sounds like he's on the edge. But the leap is the leap and it's a necessary part of having 'faith'.
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