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Old 05-12-2005, 08:29 PM
cmwck cmwck is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

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Raising the flop is far superior to waiting. Waiting is bad. All this talk these days on the forum about waiting for the turn...much of it is misguided. There are too many overcards that can come on the turn that would make you no longer like your hand, so you have to raise for value now.



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Isn't that the whole point of waiting until the turn? With a vulnerable hand that will often be ruined by the turn card, and which you cannot protect, you should pass up a +EV play on the flop for an even bigger +EV play on the turn.

However, we still should raise the flop in the original hand because there's no guarantee that the passive bettor will bet again on the turn. Also, as you said, a good card on the turn doesn't increase our equity as much as we would like, since our equity on the flop is still relatively big, since only 3 overcards can come, and there are no straight or flush possibilities.
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