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Old 02-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Ed Miller Ed Miller is offline
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Default Re: \"So I 3-bet to find out where I stood...\"

You should rarely be calling down with position. You need to use your position to find out where you are and to charge potential draws and to take free showdowns.

Example: You have QQ on the button and raise one early limper. The big blind, a seemingly sane player, calls. Flop is K T 8 with 2 spades. You bet and are checkraised by the big blind and the limper folds. Calling that and the turn and river is bad. The standard play is to pop him on the turn and usually take the free showdown. He could easily have a hand like AT or a multitude of draws that you need to charge him for and obviously you can release to further aggression. Why else is position so "powerful" as quoted by the pundits?


I agree with your example (I'd usually raise the turn also in that spot). I wouldn't call it "raising for information." You are raising to protect your hand... to get your opponent to fold a hand that has outs to beat you (or at least to put in two bets with that draw instead of one).

You are implicitly counting on the information of being 3-bet (or bet into on the river) to be reliable. If you can't count on that, then calling is often better.

When I said, "it's ok to call down," I meant, "don't put in five bets on the flop and fold to a six-bet because you think that by calling on the turn and river you become a calling station."
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