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I almost never flat call in spots like this, but this might be an exception. Wuoldnt yell at you for folding or moving allin. Hey why dont you just do the math for allin, it cant be that complicated. Put him on a range (calculate chances of people behind you having AA-QQ also), and figure it out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Meanwhile Ill sit here and learn from your results.

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Somehow us disagreeing on a line doesn't surprise me.

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Honestly I don't know the answer....thats why I want ilya to do the math based on certain UTG ranges. It should be relatively simple if he cares about the right play and makes a few assumptions. I think its a pretty important spot to know exactly what to do. Just saying to move allin is too lazy of me to accept without donig any math.