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Old 12-09-2005, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: QQ flop in very large pot

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draw heavy board

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you are either WA/WB

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You are misusing the term WA/WB here. If he is ahead, there is almost no chance he is "way ahead."

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you only have backdoor draws to a non-nut flush, a one card straight, a set, or a miracle FH/quads

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That's 5.5ish outs, according to Ed Miller. Even discounting for bigger spades and tainted set/straight outs, you still have to credit Justin with 4 outs. Calling 2SBs in this spot is not only proper, it's mandatory, barring a read that it will be capped behind him.

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but it seems like everyone else is gambling, too, so there would appear to be further opportunities ahead when you may hold a more obvious advantage.

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I have no clue what this means.
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