Re: A double post in this post (triple post?)
I can't read. I just couldn't imagine someone would fold in the 10/20 getting 8-1. I can't count either.
Basically I feel like you're pushing too hard. PF is shaky because of the tremendous odds everyone else is going to get. You're positioning yourself to play a large pot with a terrible holding.
Once you're on the flop, right, they only need to fold 1/9 times, but given that a) people pair up 1/3 of the time on the flop b) they might already have a pair) and C) people never fold, I think you're getting looked up a lot here. While C is facetious, people looove calling in this game, and they might "accidentally" outrun you with a gutshot.
It all adds up to too many chips, not enough hand for me.
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