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Old 11-28-2005, 08:18 PM
LittleOldLady LittleOldLady is offline
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Default Re: Racist or not?...you make the call.

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Okay, whats a race then genius?

I'll give you a hint, its a social construct. Thus jews can be a "race" just as well as niggers can.

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1: "A race is a distinct population of humans distinguished in some way from other humans. The most widely observed races are those based on skin color, facial features, ancestry, and genetics. Conceptions of race, as well as specific racial groupings, are often controversial due to their impact on social identity hence identity politics. "

2: "The biological definition of race is an categorization of organisms with differing characteristics while maintaining enough similiarities to be a part of a common genus and species. The word race in this context can be considered synomynious with sub-species."

3: "Biology. an interbreeding subgroup of a species whose individuals are geographically, physiologically, or chromosomally distinct from other members of the species. Anthropology. 1. a geographical variation in the human population, identified by a range of genetic characteristics such as hair and skin color, eye color and shape, facial features, body build, and blood group"

Biology question: If someone with the Jewish gene mates with someone with the Catholic gene, is the offspring Catholic or Jewish? If the offspring ends up being Catholic, will his or her mating with a Muslim lead to a Catholic offspring or a Muslim offspring... or perhaps the dormant Jewish gene will spring forth...? You should be able to answer this question, knowing so much about race.

Oh yeah... that's right... religion is not genetic, while things like skin color are (or "nigger-ness" as you so eloquently put it.)

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I get very weary of explaining this, but here goes again. There are two ways to become a Jew. One way is to be born of a Jewish mother. An individual born of a Jewish mother is a Jew without regard to what religion he or she does or does not practice. He or she can be baptized Catholic and go to Mass and even become a saint in the Catholic church, and he or she is still a Jew, something the Nazis knew and acted on when they killed Edith Stein to punish the Dutch bishops for their lack of support for the Final Solution. So, yes, Jews form a separate gene pool, or perhaps two separate gene pools (if you consider the Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews far enough apart genetically). That is why Tay-Sachs disease occurs almost exclusively among Ashkenazic Jews, although it does occur very rarely in other population groups (in particular French-Canadians and their cousins, the Louisiana Cajuns). The other way to become a Jew is to convert. The children of a woman who has converted to Judaism will be born Jews. Conversions to Judaism are relatively rare because Judaism is not a triumphalist religion and does not proselytize, but they do occur, bringing new genetic material into the Jewish gene pool. Through the millennia of anti-Jewish oppression, Jewish women were frequently subject to rape, and again any children conceived of the rape of Jewish women would be born Jews, bringing with them into the breeding population the genes of their non-Jewish fathers.

So, yes, there are Jewish genes--but there are no Christian or Muslim genes. Both Christianity and Islam are triumphalist religions which successfully seek converts worldwide, and thus adherents of those religions can be from any human population and can have any genetic profile.

To answer your facetious question, if a Jewish woman mates with a Catholic man, the child will be born a Jew no matter which religion he or she is taught to practice. From the Catholic perspective, that child should be baptized and brought up Catholic, but the child is not born a Catholic. If a Jewish man mates with a Catholic woman, the child is not Jewish unless he or she goes through a conversion process. Now, in very recent years some Reformed rabbis will circumcise and bar mitzvah boys with a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother without conversion, but these are the same rabbis who will eat cheeseburgers and drive on the sabbath.
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