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Old 11-18-2005, 05:42 PM
bjb23 bjb23 is offline
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Default Re: 22 - QQ overpair wuss fold

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I think the weaker players at this limit don't care or notice. They play their hand if they want to play their hand, no matter if I raise 5xBB or 8xBB here.


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nice, i want to get a lot of chips in pf against weak players with marginal holdings.

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But you also have a pretty large group of decent and good players. And the larger raise tells them exactly what you have in my experience. So raising less invites them to call with hands I most often dominate.

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meh. i think good players are playing mostly strong hands at this point anyway. MAYBE a "good" player will call your raise with AQ jj-99 (the range of hands which you dominate) but they are probably proceeding cautiously unless they hit a set or outflop you (eg. hit an ace with AQ).

honestly, the raise is not hugely important. just a minor detail. sometimes my read will be that a larger raise means weakness and sometimes i read it as strength so i guess it can go either way really.

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It makes sense that someone playing x6 would slowplay it. But I often see these milking flop minraises with the nuts or the near nuts and have been burned by it time and time again. Perhaps my sample size is so tilted that I am playing this incorrectly. I think I have to start writing down what minraisers have from now on to see if my interpretation of them is warped.

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yeah i think youre seeing monsters under the bed here. most times a 22er will honestly believe that AJ is by far the best hand on an j66 flop and in their minds "milking" the hand for value.

i agree that minraises in some spots are really troubling. but here, all the action on the flop screams relative weakness/pseudo-strength(ie. the better thinks he is stronger than he actually is)
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