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Old 07-17-2004, 11:30 AM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: You guys might find this thread interesting...

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This adjustment you can't make, however. That's because it will be correct for your opponents to fold as often (or more often) than you. Cutting the winning percentage of ATs without cutting that for your opponents makes your situation appear worse than it is.

Your opponents won't fold when they should, you say? Well, that is, of course, to your benefit, not detriment.

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If I understand your point, I don't agree.

Imagine that your opponents never fold postflop while you fold whenever it seems correct. That greatly reduces the probability of winning with (say) ATs and can easily make the preflop raise negative EV. Of course you are getting rich on the postflop play but that could have been achieved by just calling.

Good players may not win their hot-and-cold fair share postflop in a large loose field precisely because they have the good sense to fold. This is an adjustment that needs to be considered when evaluating preflop raises of many limpers. Not easily done of course.
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