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Can someone explain to me why the charts bother listing odds for completing a hand when both the turn AND river are still to come.

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Usually, you should ignore the odds from flop to river when considering whether to call to see the turn. There are at least two situations in which you would use this information:

[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] In NL or in tournament play, you may call all-in on the flop. Then you won't be charged on the turn.

[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] If you will have the odds to stay in on the turn even if the turn is a blank, the odds of making your draw by the river tell you when you can bet for value. For example, if you have the nut flush draw and feel that you have at least 9 outs (1.86:1), you can bet or raise for value if you will be called by at least 2 people.