Thread: 88 in the SB
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: 88 in the SB

Good questions you are asking.

When MP3 calls a raise cold on the flop that usually means he has a hand. This could mean a flush draw, a 9, sometimes a pocket pair and sometimes an overpair. If MP3 has a flush draw he'll usually have a hand like J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Its unlikely he'll coldcall preflop with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Notice when MP3 has a flushdraw he also holds 6 more out to beats us for a total of 15 outs! We also must worry about MP1 who will often hold overcards himself. That means a lot of turn cards will hurt us. 3-betting the flop is not as likely to be +EV for us anymore. We call the flop raise along with MP3 and we can choose to either bet out again, checkraise, checkcall, or fold depending on what the turn is.

Another reason not to 3-bet the flop when MP3 cold calls a raise is that he may have a hand that already beats us. 3-betting would make us lose money in this case. Only when MP3 holds a underpair will 3-betting be +EV and only thinly so.

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If MP3 just calls the flop raise and a blank hits the turn it maybe best to checkraise if you're sure MP3 will bet again with overcards. The reason I don't like doing so is that we must be pretty sure we have the best hand when we go for a checkraise. The combined dangers of having the turn checked through and not having the best hand along with the fact that there are many rivers that are bad for us leads me to believe betting the turn is the best play.
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