[epi316]

Thanks for the info, as far as 3rd street in the 2nd hand this was my thinking (and please tell me if this is very wrong). I can't see any way to not make it to showdown with this hand and I'm also not willing to give him credit for a better hand yet. I bet in case my hand is still best and since I have no redraw its good if he raises with a worse pat hand and doesnt draw.

Do you still show down if you check raise and get 3-bet? The check-call then donk line seems about the same as the one I took, except I think sometimes I win an extra bet if he raises me on 3rd with a worse hand. I guess my question really comes down to, how many bets are you willing to put in on 3rd and 4th in this spot?