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The key is that you would also be taking this line in this exact same spot with

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So when you flop something good, goto war right away for the biggest payoff.

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I get your argument, but you contradict yourself. Either I'm going to war on the flop with AK or I'm waiting to raise the river with AK.

My point was that there are a LOT more hands that he's going to 3-bet to defend with than hands that beat us here, but that I'm not likely to be able to fold a flop 3-bettor with just a raise, anywhere, and if he does fold he had complete garbage anyway and I wanted him to keep bluffing. If I raise the flop or the turn, he's going to shut down with his TP hands (either to trap me or fearing two-pair), and fold his suited garbage and other garbage defending hands. otoh, if I call-call-raise it's the same situation you describe because he's not going to be able to 3-bet the river with anything other than top two-pair or a set (as long as there isn't a scare card).

Sort of a modified WA/WB thing? Maybe? Anyone else have an opinion?