thanks bud i will try to remember your advice for the future. The first player who went all in had AQ and the caller had 88 so i guess i would have had the pot odds you suggested in the first case you presented. I think perhaps it is worth risking the tournament on this one hand because when you win you are almost sure to finish ITM and there isnt alot of time to wait for perfect situations later on i suppose. maybe not worth it if stacks were deeper and this was a multitable tourney where you have more time and stuff. what you think?