[Schneids]

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"theres no value in betting his AT"

i agree, but i was saying schneids should c/r the river. and then we got into this discussion about what hands villain could have. and now im back to saying if schneids cant c/r the river here and enjoy getting paid off nicely by Ax as well as having something like kings up just call, he shouldnt be 3 betting preflop because then villain's hand range is too narrow for hero to be picking a fight with him out of position.


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Hey mike,

I keep forgetting about this thread, sorry.

I think your thoughts are good and what I should do if the turn and river are not broadway cards. Given that the turn was a broadway card, it hits a lot of the hands that R! is peeling with, yet he's good enough that bet/calling sucks too because he's going to bluff at close enough to the right frequency that I'm going to be in dicey spots (he's not rockish enough that i can just fold, and he isn't aggro enough that i can just call down 100% and feel happy with it).