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Old 12-16-2005, 04:59 PM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: Potowatomi collusion

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Simply raising blind preflop isn't colluding.

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It can be. A while back a poster complained about an online game where a whole table was playing kill the TAGs. There were two TAGs at the table IIRC. Everytime a TAG took the BB the table captain predesignated a player to autoraise preflop. They rotated the raises so that no one took it all the time.

The player who raises blind incurs negative EV but this is distributed across the entire table and not merely to the BB. The TAG is losing money because he can never play his blind for free. The rotating aspect ensures that those EV losses are distributed fairly to all the other players even though the autoraiser is losing on a particular hand.

Back to OP, teaming up to attack the kill blind (really all the blinds) is collusion even if it's announced in advance. It places the kill blind at an unfair disadvantage compared to the other players at the table. It's certainly true that a bunch of magoos can legally achieve the same effect by being themselves, but so what? It's still collusion for two players to agree to work together to hurt a third player.

Nor is it a defense that the colluders are incompetent and spewing chips, although that might be a reason not to complain. In this case I'd be reluctant to try and exploit their "spewing" because their apparent ability to wringer people with impunity might offset their so-called mistakes.
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