Ok... but talking about getting value for your big hand. he raises to 12k. If I raise to 22-24k and he has to call another 10-12k with 69s doesnt he fold? Maybe i am wrong, but i would think he would.

I do want him to call with 69s because I have to like my odds there. Now i understand push flop and take it down with that board, but how much do you raise pre? What do you think the best raise pre is if you want a call for more chips not not to few?

Also should have mentioned... at the final table he has already mini raised me 2x from the sb and i laid down both times and one time he mini raised me and i called with 9Ts then he bet flop hard and i folded.