[willmay3]

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I think no information is better than bad information. I think these articles were poor on the whole and will start you off as a very weak tight nut peddler. There were some decent points, but he basically assumes the game is a showdown game, which it is not. There are many pots to be stolen and many splits which can be turned into scoops with well timed bets. I thought much of the advice was questionable to poor from starting hand selection to his postflop recommendations.

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If it is geared to the new player, though, that's not such a bad place to start. In fact, that is a GREAT place to start.

Also, in a typical $400 buy in or lower game at Stars or Party, there is no need to get aggressive and try and pick up pots with position raises or exploit small edges.

The reason is, about twice an hour, your average weak/tight/nut peddler has an opportunity to EXPLOIT a HUGE edge with one of the minnows that populate this game, by 3/4ing him or even, and this happens not infrequently, scooping a pot with 4 people seeing the showdown and you have lock - lock both ways with the nut flush and low and getting someone with like KK32 suited in Kings, and other with the Q high flush,and someone with the 2nd nut low ALL calling a pot sized bet on the end.

How SWEET it is.

Now, I'm rarely the player who does this. I'm usually the guy with the KK32, but my point is why try to be macho with these guys in a hand to hand fight over a $6 pot when they will walk up to you and give you $200 later. And, I mean just GIVE it to you, in a little box, with a little bow.

Let me tell you a small story. Got a friend, name is Mike, decent HE player. He HATES limit O8 b/c you can't, in his words, "bitch people out" of pots with a big raise like you can in PL and NL HE. He LOVES PLO8B, b/c you can do the aforementioned phrase.

This is the guy that is playing you in PLO8 today. The kind of guy that with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] limps in from early position, then with four callers and a Pot sized raise calls the raise and then on this flop:

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He checks, the pot goes check-check-check -check to the button who pots it and the he REpots all-in it to run into you on the button with:

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He is now chasing you high and is tied with you low and is VERY counterfitable (?) with ZERO chance to catch you BOTH ways. Your EV on every dollar that is going in the pot is over .72.

I think this is the point the guy in the articles is making. Yes, against good players you must play much more sophisticated than this, but at Stars and Party there is ZERO reason to do that, because there is ALWAYS a game with people this stupid in it. I know because I was the stupid one before, hoping not to be that guy in the future.

You call it weak/tight, I call it shooting fish in a barrel. Is it challenging, no. Is it profitable, YES!!!!!