Re: Q8s to a raise
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I'm fairly sure it was on this board or SSHE. Of course it probably applied to a better range of hands...
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The SSHE loose chart does say to play Q8s in late position, but its definition of loose is 6-8 players on the flop. This squares with the advice you've already been given. If you assume both blinds will come along, you need at least three limpers ahead of you. You'll make it four, and the blinds will make it six. Even then you're on the low end of loose.
The value of Q8s is having a lot of limpers to put money in the pot PF, then you hope to hit your flush or straight against a lot of players feeding a big pot. If you miss the flop, then it's not worth much, since many of those same limpers will now already have you beat with overcards.
Q8s may also have some steal value as it's slightly better than a random hand, so you might want it heads up or against six opponents, but not against three or four.
Someone feel free to jump on this if I completely missed it.
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