[chief444]

Grunch...I'm curious why it is you're folding this flop. I don't see KJs on a 962 flop as just a flush draw when someone overbets like that. I think his K and J outs are good most of the time. Not to mention he's getting about 2.5:1 immediate odds just to see the turn. I agree the implied odds aren't so hot but I don't think he should fold the flop. But then I don't play that much NL either. Could someone explain to me a bit further though why you guys are mucking here when you're likely at 40-50% equity? Sure he may not see the river but I think I'd rather just go all-in than fold here. And like I said it seems to me like he's getting about the immediate odds he needs anyway. It's closer to a 15 outer than 9 outer he's holding.