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Old 12-08-2005, 10:28 AM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
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Default Re: here\'s a fun hand.

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why give up so easily? ...You guys may just give too much credit to random hands in position.

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On the flop...

1. It's a small pot. If the pot were larger, I could see putting up more of a fight.

2. We're out of position with a weak hand.

I'm not in favor of investing 3 BB (the raise on the flop is necessary to drive people out) in a 3 BB pot to keep someone honest with bottom pair in a 5-way pot. In order to make this play profitable, they need to fold a better pair or MISS a flush draw about 40% of the time. Between the times you're shown a Q (maybe even a 6) and the times the flush draw beats you (even by pairing up) I just don't think the flop raise is good.
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