Thread: Non-Aggressive
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Non-Aggressive

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If you raise the flop, do you plan to call a 3bet

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Depends but folding isn't an option I choose against all but the tightest of opponents. Against many aggros I'd cap. If you cap the flop and then just lead right into you on the turn you can fold. Capping means I'll either be folding confidently or have it checked to me on the turn where I can decide whether or not to bet. Always nice to have it checked to you on the turn in a spot like that.

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If you do you could have got to the river for the same price

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Sure but what do we care abotu seeing a river. If we're behind we're way behind and it doesn't much matter if we get to see another card. Getting the small blind to fold has a lot more value then getting an extra card.

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But if we are ahead, what does EP have? and will SB fold for two but not one?

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SB called before the flop but remember we raised. If he's passive enough he coul dhave AK/AQ/KQ here. He could also have AT/KT/QT which are basically the same as far as our hand is concerned. Callers love to call with overcards for one bet, but they almost never do it fro two. What kind of hands could SB fold for two that won't fold for one? Every hand that has 6 outs against us here.

What does EP have? Loosk like 77 or something to me. A5s or 65s maybe. A marginal hand that doesn't beat ours but has showdown value. Unlikely he's folding it and also unlikely it beats us. Yes he could easily have open limped with JT/J9/QJ whatever, but we'll find out about that soon enouhg won't we [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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If you raise, both call and the turn is the A, K, Q, or T and it's checked to you, what do you do?

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I'd check behind. First, SB checkcoldcalling 2 on a rainbow board screams monster, second those cards are bad for my hand against their respective ranges.

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You raise the flop, they call. The turn is a rag. THey check, you bet,they call. The river is a rag. One of them donks, you...?

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Depends on the rags, and depends on who donked.

If the SB checked and EP donked I'd call(i'd even consider raisng but probably end up calling). If SB donked it would just be way too weird. If EP called (despite me still to act) I'd have a tough time calling and I think a fold is correct but I could be swayed. If SB donked adn EP called then that line is just way too weird for me to fold. Seriously, who takes the checkcoldcall, checkcall, donk line on a completely drawless board? What hand could you reasonably justify playing that way?
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