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Check calling is so obviously bad it is painful to argue about it. If you check he may pot it with pocket 5's. You call, drawing, showing obvious weakness. If you whiff, he pots it again, and you fold the best hand cause you never showed any strength.

Bet/fold is much better. When he comes over the top of you you know you are behind. Probably way behind.

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Wonderfully valid point.

My sole point was that on average you lose absolutely nothing in terms of expected value by check/calling in this scenario and that check/calling was certainly better than bet/calling.

I am done with this thread.