could you move your crosshair up and down in doom? could you find literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people to play against? do hundreds of thousands of people still play doom online?

Im sorry, but I guess Im just not seeing it. Maybe because when I played wolfenstein I was so young that it felt different or something, I dunno. I still throw the tie to them just because the current game market and industry are so completely and utterly effected by the changes wrought by CS.

edit: I would say that cs brought the "immersion and believability threshold" up from earlier games just as much as doom did.

i.e. the freaking physics engine. Doom didnt have one really, and CS did, there you go, there's your revolution.