Villain seems to be playing like he has AA or KK, maybe JJ. Let's assume our A outs are bad and our Q outs are good, and the gutshot is good. In this case, we have 6 outs, giving us 9:1. If villain has QQ, we are only playing for a split pot, so that gives us 2 outs. If villain has JJ then we have 4 outs. We are drawing dead to AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Despite the math, I'm wanting to get this to showdown and see if MHIG.