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Old 12-05-2005, 03:07 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Gutshot Wheel Draw on flop - enough to warrant call or standard fold?

The pot's not exactly small, and you do have two overcards to go with your wheel draw. I'd consider raising, actually.

There are some potential problems, though:

(1) With seven people seeing the flop, the chances are better than they would be at a tighter table that someone has a flush draw. And if the table is also passive, the flop checks don't tell us that UTG+1, for instance, does not have Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

(2) With so many seeing the flop, the chances that a 6 are out there cannot be disregarded at all. There's a good chance there's another ace in someone else's hand, but having someone else in the pot with a 6 has its problems too.

(3) Even if you raise, it's probably going to be hard to get rid of an ace, at a table this loose. And if a hand like A9 is out there and you can't get rid of it, that hurts your equity a lot.

Edit: (4) Oh, yeah, and like Snowball points out, you won't be able to get rid of a 4, and if one of those is out there, catching an ace would be worthless to you.

Hmm. I'm not really sure what's best.
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