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Old 12-04-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Bears in trouble

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Madtown,

I've talked about this before in its own topic. Favre has a) gotten no help this year and b) played a lot of very tough defenses. It's not like turnovers are a new thing. This is the fourth time in his career he's thrown twenty picks in a season.

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1 of those seasons was 93. I was watching in 93, he sucked. Period. His first two years were bad. Lots of silly interceptions.

2 of those seasons were years where he had 30+ TDs -- and had a solid team, both offense and defense, around him. Better supporting cast means you can take more chances with turning the ball over -- they're more likely to make the play, and if they don't, your above average defense is more likely to make a stop on them.

The fact is that Favre has never been good at avoiding interceptions because he forces the ball. A lot. Which is fine if you have a solid defense that can cover your ass, and/or a solid recieving corp that can make plays on those kinds of throws. But he doesn't have those things right now, and it's really inexcusable that he continues to try and force some of these plays.

Having watched him play for years, coming from Wisconsin while not being a Pack fan, he really is a high-risk QB. Given that the Packers are in bad shape largely due to injury, but weren't completely out of the division race since that division is pretty bad all around, some of these interceptions are the difference between being 2-10 and 5-7 or 6-6.

If he was as good as everyone thinks he is, he'd be able to scale back some of those risky plays. But he can't. He is, and always has been, a very skilled but reckless QB.

I don't see how "the turnovers have always been there" is an adequate defense. He used to have a team around him where turnovers weren't as big an issue. He doesn't any more. He's still throwing INTs though. Some of them can be chalked up to WR inexperience, but a fair amount of them are just TERRIBLE throws/decision making on Favre's part.
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