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Old 12-02-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Call with garbage?

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It's an easy fold because your under 25% to win the hand and you put 25% of the money in. Get it?

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If this is standard advice here I guess this is a forum to avoid. There are other factors to consider. What if I only had enough left to post the SB. Still fold? I'm still under 25%. Get it?

If I had 56s I call in a heartbeat even if I knew what the other 3 guys had (and they had AA, QQ & KK respectively) This is a great spot to get some chips. And if I'm gone, so what? I'm likely gone shortly anyhow.

fwiw I did fold the 94o, pushed a cpl times from late positions and stole some blinds but ultimately went bust a cpl. rounds later.

I think there are several hands to call with here, I was just wondering if anyone thought something as bad as 94 was worth it given the tournament situation.

Evidentally situations mean nothing here. You just want your equity.

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Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 56.7101 % 56.62% 00.09% { AA }
Hand 2: 17.9245 % 17.84% 00.09% { KK }
Hand 3: 15.0285 % 14.94% 00.09% { QQ }
Hand 4: 10.3370 % 10.25% 00.09% { 94o }


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You did not want to be in this hand. Even if someone had AK or AQ, you wouldn't be much better off. Obviously if you only had the SB left you would call. Then again, if you only had the SB you'd be putting in 8.3% of the chips (500/(1500+1500+1500+500+1000) x 100%), not 20% or so. Also, if you only had 500 chips, you couldn't do anything else. You would have no fold equity.

BTW, 76s in this situation is 20% to win, better than KK or QQ, and twice as likely as 94o. That's a completely different hand. Don't say that situations mean nothing here. It's simply that we analyzed this situation and didn't think that it was a good one (and the math backs us up); we weren't talking about having half of a BB or holding SCs. With 5x the BB, this hand is not a do or die situation.

Will
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