How'bout this scenario...MY GF (girlfriend, sheesh with all these abbreviations GF may mean good fold!) she asked me to call since it was her tournament.. I made the mistake of folding after she came back from the bathroom and wanted me to call.. I suggested that it was a folding hand (given the circumstances) and folded anyway... Bad move..
1) it was her tourney and she is capable of making those mistakes or correct plays as she feels the need..
2) I just shouldn't have intervened since the flop came perfect against the perfect hand to bust and double through.

FLOP 2-4-5 against a pocket pair of FIVES...ugh.. anyhow...In hindsite, it only cost me two bets to potentially double through and including the limper and implied odds gave me the opportunity to get LUCKY..

Bottom line.. I would have folded... My GF would have doubled through and considering her expertise ( I don't say that loosely ) had a huge chance at winning the tourney.

She is sharing this post with the following PS

ps..(written by pissed of girlfriend..seriously)

ok guys
1) i've been playing poker for a living for 2 years so
2) even though i was just messing around, killing time on some stupid low limit tournament my poker skills/thought process are still intact
3) he was mad so he started this whole post AGAINST my wishes (yet again) because, no offense guys, but i KNEW you'd all answer with the predictable "fold" because it's the simple,easy to play, i don't know what to do after the flop answer and
4) you are all CLEARLY WRONG (my boyfriend included). for the following reasons:
- we started the tourney and all have 1500 in chips blinds are 10-20...so the UTG moron min raises and the second moron min raises again...i now have to call a total of 40 chips compared to their 3000 combined in stacks!!!
- two things are possible:
1: they have AA and KK (or similar hands) respectively
2: they have marginal crap

if the scenario is 1: i obviously don't go broke with ONE PAIR. i am conscious enough to KNOW my kicker isn't good...jesus and if the answer is 2: i might have the best hand even if i just flop one pair....i can find out pretty cheap what the situation is since these guys are clearly not very agressive nor bright...

so on implied odds ALONE it's an obvious call because i can hit an A-3-x flop or a 3-3-x flop or 2-4-5 for that matter and i WILL hit it more than 3000/40 times. AND even if the pure math is less than that it doesn't matter because the IMPLIED math of having such a huge chip lead in the beginning of the tournament is INFINITELY important in helping me actually WIN it.

of course, since god has a sense of humor, the PERFECT example of what i was talking about DID happen. the utg moron raised 55s and flopped top set, i flopped the straight i could of check raised all in (since he bet most of his stack) and doubled through with ALMOST NO RISK (i am a 2 to 1 favorite on the flop. about as good as it gets to get someones chips all in).

to illustrate the point further, in another tourney today i was in the BB with Q-6 of spades (middle of tourney, stacks ok sized and blinds about 50-100). one guy limped early and the button idiot MIN RAISED! i KNEW he had AA or at worst KK (but i was 89% sure AA) i STILL called and it was CORRECT. all 3 of us in the hand had decent chip stacks, the first limper wasn't short enough to just push and make me make a decision preflop. and if he did push his huge stack i can get of cheap yet again (for ONE small bet) and again, i reiterate, only a moron would think ONE pair of QQs or my 66s was good...i knew BEFORE the flop what one of the players had with almost CERTAINTY and waited for 2 pair or better....what happened was a flop of Q-6-5 (2 spades) and i checked, first guy bet the pot, button moron NOW pushes all in and i re-raised all in with my bigger stack isolating him with, yes, his AA and cracking them with my two pair.

in conclusion, when people min raise they are making TWO huge mistakes
1) they give me implied odds to call and
2) they are giving away the strength of their hand (MOST of the time they have monsters, sometimes they have 55s but it's rare)

ok...that's it...i'm done ranting...i'm not mad about losing the stupid tourney online. that's not the point. but it's about having my bf do exactly the OPPOSITE of what i ask (that's a whole other post) AND about having my poker judgement questioned. yes, we all have more to learn about poker every single day....but some things are learned from experience and become very obvious the more you play and the more confidence you have in your POST FLOP play. it's a 7 card game people....

good night...
j